Wednesday, January 28, 2009

Significant Achievements of the War in Iraq

Here are some significant "achievements" of that war:

4236 American Deaths
30984 Americans Wounded*
1307319 Iraqi Deaths
Over $600 billion of spent

* 30984 is the “official” count. It is estimated that this # is closer to 100,000.

If victory means needless death and suffering and one of the causes of the fall of our economy, we definitely achieved victory!


  1. And yet you care not about the 153 military killed in Afghanistan during President B Hussein's first week in office. Tisk tisk.
    That's a pretty significant achievement wouldn't you say?

    Let's see 150 per week x 50 weeks in a year (2 weeks off for ramaquanzahantis) = 7,500 per year.

    He could beat Bush's numbers easily without even trying... since your keeping score.

  2. ... and otter, check the math before you go posting claims about dead people.

    That figure that over 1.3million Iraqi's were killed during the war isn't possible (if you do the math)
    the number you used (and the left loves to use) is bogus and again if you do the math you will see that to achieve that number, almost 600 Iraqi's had to have been killed every single day since the war began and that is just not the case.

    BUT...if you ask those who were wounded if it was worth it... to a man they say it was, so who are we to believe otter... the guy who fudges the numbers or the guys who went over there and paid the price?

    Sorry, but I'll go with them.

  3. The number you cite came from the ORB which was based on an opinion poll not an actual body count and by most standards is more than double the actual number killed.

    The IBC is a little more reliable but still not completely accurate since they include all deaths (accidental, murders, car accidents etc) in their number...

    Opinion Research Business (ORB) poll conducted August 12-19, 2007 estimated 1,033,000 violent deaths due to the Iraq War. The range given was 946,000 to 1,120,000 deaths. A nationally representative sample of approximately 2000 Iraqi adults answered whether any members of their household (living under their roof) were killed due to the Iraq War. 22% of the respondents had lost one or more household members. ORB reported that "48% died from a gunshot wound, 20% from the impact of a car bomb, 9% from aerial bombardment, 6% as a result of an accident and 6% from another blast/ordnance."[8][9][10][11][12]

    The Iraq Body Count (IBC) figure of 88,851 to 96,976 civilian deaths reported in English-language media (including Arabic media translated into English) up to 30 September 2008 includes civilian deaths due to coalition and insurgent military action, sectarian violence and increased criminal violence. The IBC site states: "it should be noted that many deaths will likely go unreported or unrecorded by officials and media."[13] For the 4th year of the war between 20 March 2006 and 16 March 2007 the Iraq Body Count reported approximately 26,540 civilian deaths.[14]

  4. I was not talking about the soldier killed in Afghanistan. Read the title of the post first. It does not say Significant Achievement of the War in Iraq AND AFGHANISTAN. It just said Iraq. Please learn to read before assuming what I am thinking.

    And might I remind you that the soldiers that were killed in Afghanistan that I apparently don't care about (which I do by the way) are a result not of Obama's policies but of your beloved George W. Bush. Thanks for playing.

    As for your next comments (by the way, why can't you say everything in one post?).....

    I got my figures from reliable sources. I quote facts, not opinions. I didn't cite anything from the ORB. If I were posting opinions, I would have said. These are the opinions of someone taking a poll.

    The fact is...and my point was...that all we have achieved by going to war in Iraq is that several thousand American lives were lost, as well as several thousand Iraqi lives, plust we spend a butt load of money that did not need to be spent.

    But leave it up to you to belittle the POINT I was trying to make with this post. @@